But, I really dont know whats going to happen. Do you ever speak to him? But he would not comment when asked if he thought the decision was racially motivated. Im supposed to be the guy thats leading everybody and then Ill take that leadership role. I try to teach my kids to be elusive. Thats the way the game goes. . (Laughs). The Spinks fight would be the last time boxing fans would see Tyson at his best. ''Even right now, I'm not mad . Unfortunately, Cus D'Amato passed away in 1985 and Kevin Rooney was fired in 1988 (under Don King's influence). Give Kevin Rooney eight weeks with a truly rededicated Mike Tyson and he whips any top ten heavyweight in the world active or retired. Bill had been a businessman his whole life. Jimmy died, then Mike married Robin. Answer (1 of 9): Why did Mike Tyson decline so quickly? In the words of sportswriter Jack Newfield, "the day Tyson fired Kevin Rooney there was a cap put on Mike Tyson's development as a fighter, he did not develop anymore beyond that day." During the period when Rooney was Tyson's trainer, Tyson had a professional record of 35 fights, 35 wins (31 wins by KO). Hes a thief, and he got away with it. 04-05-2005, 03:27 AM. Rarely would Tyson ever be hit accurately with an opponents punch. A Lets put it this way, first, if Cus had stayed alive, none of this wouldve happened. He settles the case for $14 million dollars over a 3 year period. Once he went with Don King, then Don King took over and Don King was the boss and Mike became second-hand nothing. He didnt even get paid. 2023 www.southcoasttoday.com. Kevin Rooney gives a insight on Mike Tyson and Cus D'Amato #cusdamato #miketyson #kevinrooney Things started to turn around for him after meeting boxing manager Constantine "Cus" D'Amato. I got another kid whos 7-1. A Lets put it this way, first, if Cus had stayed alive, none of this wouldve happened. Tyson was getting the money once in awhile from Shelly. (Laughs). He was there. Hes dead now. The bell rings, first round. They broke up and Mike went with King. The difference is, Tyson arguably did these things better then his peers and used the so called peek a boo style taught to him by Cus DAmato. Tyson was getting the money once in awhile from Shelly. When he was with me there was no partying. He shared that Jordan would not get into an altercation with anyone because he's "a class guy.". For 35 fights, they were Mike Tyson's corner men. King had already started brainwashing Tyson & firing Rooney was the single worst professional decision Tyson ever made. But, they robbed us. She then announced that she was filing for divorce. Somewhere it got mixed up. I got a few young kids that come in, but, Ive reached the point where o.k. The fewer people could influence Mike, the better. They dont want to see this tap, tap and the referee jump in and break, break and give em all those hand signals. He knows what hes doing. You gonna let him talk that way?, Yvette Prieto and Michael Jordan at Time Warner Cable Arena on November 1, 2015 in Charlotte, North Carolina | Source: Getty Images, While Holloway's account was immortalized in a book, Ditka claims it was overblown. He gets in the ring in Cuss old gym, my gym now. Very different. (Laughs). By the age of 13, he had been arrested more than 30 times. Hes 19-1, with 15 knock-outs. With interest and penalties that $4 million was $8.7 million dollars. The . Nothis is America! Sorry, but thats just the breaks. They did not determine the duration of the contract, and ruled that Rooney should not get any money from future Tyson fights. Hes very smart when it comes to numbers. WhoaIm outta here. Kevin Rooney: I dont remember the guys name. To preserve these articles as they originally appeared, The Times does not alter, edit or update them. I learned from Cus DAmato. Wait. Thats the way it is. Tyson Fury: The Return Of The Gypsy King? Anyway, Mike was a money machine. He was a basketball player on the high school team, star guard. However, after the death of Cus, the things between them did not work well and Tyson fired Rooney from his team in 1988. "', Sharpton called the jury "racist" and its decision a "lynching.". Thats what happened in a lot of Mikes fights. Hows it going? i know cus d'amato used a number system for tyson to throw punches in bunches . Others blame Robin Givens, his ex-wife, for having him diagnosed as a manic depressive. Allen Kieny Director of sales Roto Flex Oven Company, Lee Salomon Interview William Morris Agency. I mean, every day they took a beating every day. Following the completion (Laughs). We had to bring sparring partners in from Philly, New York. Why do I want to pay $50 to see these 2 guys fight? Kevin Rooney: Kevin Rooney was a former boxer turned trainer later in life. He knows where I live. They were out for a score and they made a score on Tyson. Larry Holmes. The peek a boo style, in essence, is constant head movement to evade the opponents punches; chin protected by the fighters gloves, and punch combinations to the head and body coming forward. The guy and this is a fact, he puts up his hands, Thats enough and he was a tall guy and walked out of the ring. speaks out against the above mentioned and. When he got out of jail, he was fighting for $30 million dollars here, $30 million dollars there. The guy gets into the ring [laughs]. Hes going across Europe. But, I sued and I won my lawsuit against him. But, its Comedy Central, so I guess these guys are suppose to be telling jokes at each other or something. Im just spinning my wheels, but, Im always looking out. Emmanuel Steward, famed Kronk boxing trainer and manager, said if a fighter had success with their style of fighting he did not look to change it, but rather look to improve the fighters skills and minimize their weaknesses. (Laughs). Mike Tyson is an athlete known for being the youngest heavyweight boxing champion of the world at the age of 20 back in 1986. They dont want to see this tap, tap and the referee jump in and break, break and give em all those hand signals. Nothis is America! Bell rings, Mike comes out, bop, bop, bop. At the time Tyson was 11-0 as a pro. Occasionally the digitization process introduces transcription errors or other problems; we are continuing to work to improve these archived versions. Mike Tyson apologizes to Teddy Atlas. Once Jimmy died, Robin Givens and her mother Ruth Roper stepped in and tried to grab all his money. Rooney keeps telling him he will wear down Louis with body shots and drop Joe's guard. Like they did in the old days when Joe Louis did that back in the 30s and 40s. Right away your hands are gonna go up. We call him the greatest fighter ever, he took a helluva shot. We were asking for $49 million dollars. What is this? Kevin Rooney, as rumours spread that . Hes fighting guys for like 3 or 4 rounds. Bill had been a businessman his whole life. The last time I heard hes got some promoter out of Vegas that was gonna take him on a world tour. Where, back in 1976, up in Montreal when Sugar Ray Leonard and Tommy Heerns and the other little kid who was a 112 pounds, I forgot his name. Mike Tyson the phenomenon was real; between 1986 and 1990, the world stopped on the nights he fought. Move and punch. Richmann A I gave half to my lawyer, the rest to the government and I had at one time back in 1996, 1997, I had a little money in my back account. Get rid of everybody. The world will then see more than flashes of the guy we once knew as the baddest man on the planet. At the time, he claimed that Mike broke a lifetime contract by firing him. If you can out point me, good for you. I think the period is already up. In the first round I was like Whoa! When my fighters go out there, trust me, if someone knows were fighting Joey Smith, and who has been training him? The duo developed the unbreakable bond between an amateur and a professional boxer. Rooney went on to work with a number fighters over the years, including most notably ring legend and five-time champion, Vinny Pazienza. Discussion in 'Boxing Discussion' started by Kung Fu Kowboy, Feb 21, 2021. (Laughs). I learned from Cus DAmato. The celebrant himself, Richard Dent, insists that Ditka wasn't at the party, so the whole incident was a lie. Looking back I should have fought as a Middleweight. When he got out of jail, he was fighting for $30 million dollars here, $30 million dollars there. I run it. After the Spinks fight, Tyson fired Kevin Rooney for reported personal differences. After firing Kevin Rooney, Mike Tyson had had some of the best trainers in boxing such as Tommy Brooks, Buddy McGirt, Ronnie Shields, and Freddy Roach. The reunion took place soon after Tyson and his wife Robin Givens got divorced in 1989, a time when the boxer struggled greatly to deal with the separation. Rooney was the trainer of World Heavyweight Champion Mike Tyson from the start of his professional career in 1985, up until Tyson's bout with Michael Spinks in 1988. Then all the sudden youre like, who, who, damn, wait a minute. Wing body shots and the uppercuts. Rooney tells Mike, "Get him now!". Thats a difficult combination to deal with. Thats the way Mike was. Im watching it on HBO the next day! of his training as an amateur boxer, he is currently preparing to appear for He used to run numbers. (Laughs). So and so is fighting so and so for a title or title elimination, and this is what is hurting the game. This boxing writer agrees that all the aforementioned may have been secondary reasons, which may have contributed to Tysons demise. Where, back in 1976, up in Montreal when Sugar Ray Leonard and Tommy Heerns and the other little kid who was a 112 pounds, I forgot his name. It wasnt a joke. Then they started making all these false accusations. He gets in the ring in Cuss old gym, my gym now. This is the first time for me. Teddy Atlas and Kevin Rooney did alot of the coaching. For that reason were being guided by the Europeans, their ways and rules. Yes, he always did. BoxingInsider: When do you believe Ali was at his prime and what would your strategy be for Mike vs. Ali? Notably, Rooney has trained no one before Iron Mike. However, in 1985, his trainer and surrogate father died of pneumonia. He was a member of The Harlem Globetrotters. Finish the video Kevin Rooney fans before you think I'm lying kevin sued mike tyson sayin he made a deal with cus to be mikes trainer forever if mike was 15 . Kevin Rooney. Q Besides this Punch lines Show, what do you do with your time? He worked his way up from nothing. You can buy it for $50. Once he went with Don King, then Don King took over and Don King was the boss and Mike became second-hand nothing. If you follow what Im sayin, boxing is a hard game and its hard to get a young kid to stick with it is really what it comes down to. My kids 18-1, with 13 knock-outs. Thomas Hays is his name. The primary reason Tyson never regained his championship form is because he fired Kevin Rooney! Liam Williams tells all , 36 vs. 28: The Third Alvarez vs. Golovkin Fight Has To Happen Now, Manny Pacquaio Wants Fight Against Vasyl Lomachenko. He became the closest protg of Kevin Rooney. "We will not take this insult in any way other than a call to action," he said. Get him on the ropes. Matt Baranski and Johnny Tocco, veteran boxing trainers who have worked extensively with former heavyweight champion Mike Tyson, . People are still memorized by him. He was basically the last remaining link between Tyson and Cus, and also the way Tyson was trained. Q How much did you have to give to your lawyer? Its Comedy Central. playing the sport, Abhishek is also the holder of a Bachelor's in Arts degree Q Becoming a trainer like Kevin Rooney is not something you can go to school to learn is it? Im sore. He was a great, great businessman. Once Mike married Robin and this is after his fight in Japan, the woman tried to get a hold of all of Mikes money and because of Bill Cayton, he had all the money locked up. Tyson said he would fight the verdict because he believed he should have the right to fire someone working with him. I think it was Philly, but, Im not really sure. Part of it is Fury himself and his ability to make any fight into an ugly [], TYSON FURY is "SPENT" and has been urged to avoid Joe Joyce by his sparring partner after complaining about sore arms and elbows. It was too late, though, as the boxing legend stared at Jordan across the table and taunted him. Answer (1 of 6): I have never heard him talk about Rooney, ever, let alone express remorse. Butthis is now. Bill Cayton was a very honest man, had a lot of integrity. Thats my philosophy. Teddy Atlas and Kevin Rooney, both former D . Once Cus died, then it was Bill Cayton, and Jimmy Jacobs. He was a member of The Harlem Rockets. His name is William Papaleo. Im watching it on HBO the next day! Q And youre right in the middle! What Im saying, what is missing and hurting the boxing industry is that ABC, CBS, and NBC do not show live fights anymore. Hes like a little on the green side but, hes a very, very tough kid and hes got a lot of heart. He gave the lawyers 14 days. Step to the side and if you got lucky enough, hit him with the right hand or left hook and he would be gone. When he was with Jimmy Jacobs, Bill Cayton, and Steve Watt, he was the man. Muhammad Ali. And why? People are going to be talking stuff and whatever. Were not getting any publicity anymore. Everything is Pay Per View. Were all like, whats happening?! Under Cuss system you can do it in a very, very intelligent way, where youre not getting hurt and the only person getting hurt is the opponent. Then he went with King and Kevin Rooney was out and then Mike Tyson took the downfall where he should have stayed with the people that Cus DAmato had put in placeBill Cayton, Jimmy Jacobs, Kevin Rooney and Steve Watt. A Well o.k. I knocked you out. Hes sparring with people. Theyd just go in and they were gentlemen about it. Kevin Rooney is pretty sure that Mike Tyson, for the first time in his life, gave in to those other voices during his stunning loss to Buster Douglas last Saturday night. All those guys I just mentioned they were gonna put a hurtin on you. We had to bring sparring partners in from Philly, New York. I finished the job. Hes like a little on the green side but, hes a very, very tough kid and hes got a lot of heart. Whoa! There was no, well I worked hard, Im gonna go have a few drinks and try to pick up a girl. Im like the guy in the middle. I wasnt going to bring that up.. He has so much potential. Thats how it is. He settles the case for $14 million dollars over a 3 year period. For more information, please see our Kevin Rooney: 1966, 67, 68, in that time frame. Because I could see the frustration in their face. He was actually a student of the game and willing to listen to those who he respected. A lot of guys. I throw em against this guy, I cant hit him [smiles]. He was winning the fight and then he got hit and lost the decision. The Fight Game has gone south as far as Im concerned. Rock & Roll Interviews, Celebrity Interviews and more. Alan Babic can [], Two of Britains leading boxing referees are embroiled in a legal battle with the British Boxing Board of Control over allegations of victimisation [], https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMgUwxQzTqs [], No excuses now, he has to fight Haney. He was the first guy to make the most money when he fought Spinks. "You can't take blood from a stone. What Happened to Mike Tysons Daughter? A - No. Several successful boxing trainers, including Teddy Atlas and Kevin Rooney, were tutored by D'Amato. Q That would be a big reason why it would never happen. Tyson, who is black, promised he would appeal what he called a "peculiar" and "unjust" verdict. Here we go. PREVIOUS EDITIONS As an average Steelers fan, I'm compelled to compare players from different eras. His mom, Lorna, raised him and two of his other siblings. Even if Rooney had stayed, would there have been any chance of Tyson actually listening to him and staying disciplined? loss. Im guessin hes gonna make $50,000$100,000. Hes living out in Phoenix or something. I remember he used to stand in front of the mirror throwing uppercuts for like 15 minutes. Roasts where famous people would get up and insult each other or poke fun at each other? The one loss is like a B.S. One kid is 18-1. Its like tap, tap, dont hurt me. It was funny. Tyson also indicated he would have given Rooney $4 million if he had just asked for it without suing. However, in an interview, Michael Jai White, who portrayed the life of Mike Tyson on the screen in the biopic Tyson, recalled a movie scene. He should never have had the loss. This was as audio only so i added a highlight of a young mike tyson and young Teddy Atlas and even a rare amateur tyson KO with teddy in his corner. I think it was back in the late 90s, early 2000, 2001. They were ripping ass. It really did mark the beginning of the end of Tyson's brilliant boxing . Knocked em out cold. He hopped right over the rope and out of the door. Mike punched hard. Everything from not being with Kevin Rooney to the so-called long count has been uttered from my mouth. Lets just go back to the basics. My record as a pro was 21-4-1, with I dont know, 10 or 12 knockouts. And then wed go to the gym. A Actually I had a little under $1 million dollars. Now, I dont know how long youve been in the fight game, how long youve been interested in it, or how old you are, but back in the 60s, 70s and then in the middle 80s, you would see a fight on t.v. When my fighters go out there, trust me, if someone knows were fighting Joey Smith, and who has been training him? BoxingInsider: Didnt sparring guys come to the gym, see Mike punch, then leave the gym? 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